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This is the channel for the discussion of metaphysical and parapsychological subjects. Please keep discussion of these topics to this channel and out of the rest of the server.
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Alice❀ BOT 1/20/2020 2:55 PM
that's why 5-MEO is sometimes called the God Molecule because people say they meet god
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Deleted User 1/20/2020 2:56 PM
yeah fair enough
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didnt know another psychonaut was around lmao
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Alice❀ BOT 1/20/2020 2:56 PM
try me lol
2:56 PM
still need to actually try most of the stuff
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Deleted User 1/20/2020 2:56 PM
doing acid in a few weeks for my first time
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same
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diving head first into the pool with 180
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Alice❀ BOT 1/20/2020 2:56 PM
half that for first time
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and stay away from weed
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weed fucks with LSD a lot
2:57 PM
take it pure the first time
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Deleted User 1/20/2020 2:58 PM
yeah i know
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ive read up enough
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still im sticking with 180
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Alice❀ BOT 1/20/2020 2:58 PM
good luck mang
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Deleted User 1/20/2020 2:58 PM
aye man
2:58 PM
tyty
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Alice❀ BOT 1/20/2020 2:58 PM
get a hold of benzons
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Deleted User 1/20/2020 2:58 PM
ill read back later
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Alice❀ BOT 1/20/2020 2:58 PM
benzos
2:58 PM
trip stopper for LSD
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Deleted User 1/20/2020 2:58 PM
ik benzos can stop it dead
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Alice❀ BOT 1/20/2020 2:58 PM
ye nice
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Deleted User 1/20/2020 2:58 PM
ill stick with alc tho
2:58 PM
hard to get benzies in russia
2:59 PM
alc can help just as well
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Alice❀ BOT 1/20/2020 2:59 PM
ah yeah
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i am looking for tulpas and/or hosts with experience with esoteric, catholic, occult, or otherwise virtuous philosophies and beliefs. please DM me if you have any of these.
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Deleted User 1/21/2020 4:26 AM
Can you say that in human please
4:26 AM
I think I fit in but I'm not sure what you're trying to look for
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people who follow virtues or strict moral codes
2:43 AM
or just have knowledge of esoteric things, such as mysticism or occultism
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sorry for taking so long
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please DM if you think you fit the bill
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oh uhh on second thought, do not DM me.
2:51 AM
not you
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you sure its a hallucination @imaducky?
7:56 AM
oof they gone
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re-posting message; if you would like a well vetted place to preserve a tulpa's innocence and to embrace more 'esoteric' and virtuous ideals, please DM me
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I wanted to clarify something that @Alice❀ said because knowledge is power: 5-MEO-DMT isn't the God Particle. It's an analogue that actually gives much less visual and cognitive effects and instead gives some of the strongest physical sensations of any tryptamine class psychedelic. DMT is the "God Particle" and when smoked induces a dream-like state where one does, yes, often run into god-like entities. See my host's personal experience here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/5a0gbb/so_i_just_blasted_way_off_and_heres_my_story_dmt/ Ayahuasca is a mixture of DMT and an MOAI, which allows it to be taken orally (digested) instead of smoked, which dampens and extends the effects from incredibly strong for 15 minutes (smoked) to still pretty damn strong for several hours (eaten). Interesting note: DMT is naturally occurring within the human brain and is released in very small quantities while you sleep to induce dreaming. (edited)
4:36 AM
and trust us when we say we know what were talking about. we didnt just buy it somewhere and then take it, we actually grew the plant, harvested it, and extracted the dmt from its roots ourselves (we got really bored in college) if anyone ever wants to know anything drugs, hmu. the first step to harm reduction is knowing what youre talking about 😛 (edited)
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Lord of the High Seas 1/31/2020 4:38 AM
What do drugs have to do with metaphysics though
4:38 AM
thonk
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psychedelics have a lot to do with metaphysics depending on your stance. according to some, tryptamines especially are a great way to remove the built-up filters of your conscious mind and expose your subconscious to the things you never usually notice like the latent energies of the world that make up causality
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4:41 AM
most of what i just said is probably just hippie-speak though, i dont exactly have the greatest understanding of the definition of "metaphysics"
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i just saw people talkin drugs and saying a buncha shite that was factually incorrect and wanted to step in before someone did something under false pretenses (edited)
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on that note: dont do drugs kids, stay in school and eat your vegetables
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but if youre going to do them anyway, make sure you actually know what youre doing so you dont hurt yourself or someone else
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PSA over (edited)
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Alice❀ BOT 2/1/2020 12:11 AM
thanks for correcting @TaniHaven 👍
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you sdont need drugs to access that state and its very likely you just actually imagined most of it
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false revalations
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real ones are organic
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drugs are drugs and hallucinogenics are hallucinogenics specifically because they induce that sort of state of mind 🤔
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cant argue with people after one little trip they think they know everything
4:13 AM
i dont really see this as a "metaphysics" channel
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Lord of the High Seas 2/1/2020 4:17 AM
Care to ellaborate what metaphysics is?
3:05 PM
'd imagine a lot less of drugs and roleplay and a little more esoterics, mystic thinking, occult/astral projection type stuff, maybe some credible authors
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>metaphysics >credible authors >hmmm
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just because you cant name any or cant greentext right doesnt mean there arent any
3:06 PM
evola, eichenhart, jung, atkins
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Lord of the High Seas 2/1/2020 3:44 PM
Well, I have read the Liber Null, didn't exactly flip the switch for me.
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its not on any of my reading lists. some anecdotes, practices, and whole philosophies all together are B S
3:49 PM
try hermetics.
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Lord of the High Seas 2/1/2020 3:56 PM
I also looked on wicca and other stuff back in the day, but I just wasn't interested on "Do X to have luck/curse people you don't like", and pretty much most of the stuff I looked at never went past that.
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wicca is for tumblr regulars and nobody else
3:57 PM
proper occult (as i know it) is mainly mental. its what inspired me to look into thoughfroms
3:57 PM
if you want something to at least chew on, try the kyballion
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I guess this is the channel for me lol
5:42 PM
I think I would only be comfortable forcing a tulpa if I was also comfortable with "dissipating", or splitting ways, or permanently merging back with her
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My spiritual "goal" is peace of mind, inner silence, non-resistance
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The ability to accept emotional pain without an attitude of guilt and expectations towards the pain
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I'm not trying to say that I want to forcefully bring about emotional pain, mind you
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you can get rid of tulpas
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The idea of my tulpa that has formed so far feels as if she would be "alright" with no longer being a part of my experience
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you're wrong
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becuase you're the host
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your opinions that that's how it should be is something your tulpa can't always challenge
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therefore it is true
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do what you will with this power
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Are tulpas naturally immortal, or can they die "natural" deaths aside from being dissipated?
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have you ever heard of a normal singlet person just disappearing from a brain?
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Well yeah
5:46 PM
When a loved one dies, they are no longer part of your Life experience, except in the form of memories etc
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that's not what i mean
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have you ever heard of someone dying in their mind
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Well no, but until I discovered tulpamancy I had also never heard of someone being born in their mind
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The closest comparison I have is writing a character in a story
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The character lives in my brain while I'm writing the story, but is essentially confined to the bounds of the story
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Tulpas seem to be sort of an extension of that concept, except that once you've created them, they stick around?
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Honestly the "idea" of my tulpa is an extension of a character I came up with for a story (but I wasn't going to force the tulpa to "be" that character)
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She's sort of someone I've caught glimpses of
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It's not so much that I want to create her "for fun", but that she's already sort of been taking shape in my mind before I had a firm concept of "forcing a tulpa"
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She might even be related to one of my "past lives"?
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Although my main indicator for that is that I've always felt like a girl in a male body
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A long kiss goodnight 3/18/2020 6:12 PM
I know some people make magical servitors for magical purposes, but they deliberetly warn against encouraging sentience
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Oh interesting
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A long kiss goodnight 3/18/2020 6:14 PM
It makes sense to me, if you created a magical servant and they had a mind of their own, they wouldn't be happy if you didn't love them or treat them as equals
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